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There's a point that I want to yell at people that "They've never been given a deliberately gender neutral name and it shows." I am starting to realize how much I internalized how my mother views gender. She told me a young age that she gave me a gender neutral name (though it was in the process of becoming more of a female name and is rarely used as a male name these days) so that people would have to meet me to learn if I was a boy or girl. Listing military service on my job applications (because veteran's benefit helps a lot when going for government jobs) would probably confuse more people if I didn't keep applying to jobs in which people knew me before the interview (I'm pretty sure being known has helped me get my last couple of jobs).

But that means I sometimes pick and choose what things are worth being feminine about. I don't wear makeup because I dealt with the fear of wearing it wrong by never starting. I foolishly spent years demonstrating I could be just a macho and drink hard alcohol. Lots of other thoughts follow on, but I'm not sure yet how to articulate them without being needlessly hurtful.

Date: 2019-12-01 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Interesting. I blend because I've been so often the one non-male person in a group of male individuals; it's body language and conversational topic, too. In some ways I've ended up with "and" by force of will: if someone reads me as a woman, well, these are traits and interests and habits women also have; deal.

Some of that is time/place, I think. No one said "nonbinary" when I was a child or young adult, and I don't particularly see myself as NB, either. But I'm not sure how to interpret "being feminine about"--not sure what the phrase means because it has a lot of space, a lot of pockets.

Date: 2019-12-01 10:55 pm (UTC)
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It is also okay to shout to the void! I wasn't sure whether to reply, for my part.

Discussions of appearance maintenance aren't my thing, either. I paused earlier because I work with a few men who take that kind of care about physical appearance (cis-het men, if it matters); they're early-mid twenties, and to them their level of interest is normal. For men my age only self-conscious goths wore makeup, mostly for going out at night, and they didn't bother with cleansers or hydrating masks. *shrugs* Another way in which time/place can pertain, perhaps.

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